He believed he was certain of that. He said that Wharton arranged for the documents to be prepared; he believed that was after they decided that there was no point in going on with the appeal. He did not recall how long after the conversation Wharton gave him the documents to sign. He could not be sure but it would have been that day or the next, it was not a long time afterwards. When pressed, he said it was a very short period of time after. He could not be specific but it was not a long period of time. He believed that Wharton obtained legal advice whether Allied Securities should retire, he presumed from Oakley Thompson. He believed he signed the Deed of Retirement after legal advice had been obtained from the lawyers. At the very end of his cross-examination Gillies was asked if he thought the order to wind up would adversely affect Allied Securities. In answer he said he believed the order would not have the effect on Allied Securities "you would think ... because we replaced Allied Securities with Denby Vale and therefore the partnership was still in situation". I did not take this answer to qualify his previous evidence as to the timing of Allied Securities retirement as distinct from the continuation of the partnership. If it did mean to qualify it, I reject it.