(2) secondly, between a power to make orders for winding up and a power to give directions about how a winding up is to take place.
51 It follows that the power to give directions under s 601NF(2) is narrower than the power to make orders under s 601EE(2). No doubt, that reflects the fact that the power under s 601NF(2) is one to be exercised in the context of a registered scheme, where the scheme's constitution will provide for winding up; whereas the power under s 601EE is given in respect of unregistered schemes, where there may be no such constitutional requirement. Power under s 601EE(2) is power to order winding up. Power under s 601NF(2) is ancillary to an established process of (or order for) winding up. In this context, I note that the power under s 601NF(2) is available either where the winding up is ordered by the Court under s 601ND or where the winding up is conducted by the responsible entity pursuant to 601NA because the scheme's constitution so requires.
52 However, to say that one power is narrower than another does not state the limits, or incidents, of the narrower power. The question that remains is whether a power to give directions about how a registered scheme is to be wound up can authorise the giving of a direction that those conducting the winding up may recover their costs and expenses out of the assets of the responsible entity, to the extent that the assets of the scheme are insufficient.
53 To put the question more bluntly: is an order that the expenses of winding up a scheme be borne out of the assets of the responsible entity, to the extent that the scheme's assets are insufficient, an order "about how" that scheme "is to be wound up"?
54 As a matter of language, I think, a direction about payment of costs and expenses of winding up is capable of being a direction about how that winding up is to be conducted. That is because, in the real world, the process of winding up will necessarily be attended by, or productive of, costs and expenses. Whether or not that linguistic conclusion should be adopted as the proper construction of s 601NF(2) must depend, to a large degree, on a consideration of the subsection in its context. That context includes, as I have said, recognition that a responsible entity may continue to hold that position, and therefore in principle be required to perform its duties, notwithstanding that it is insolvent or under external administration.
55 There is a practical consideration. Where a scheme's assets are charged, and the amount owing to the secured creditor is likely to exceed or equal the value of the assets, it is unlikely that a third party could be persuaded to take over the task of winding up the scheme. That is because, although the third party would have a theoretical right to recover those costs and expenses out of the assets, in practice that right would be of no value. Yet, as Pullin J pointed out in Knightsbridge, there are important reasons of public policy why, in some circumstances, insolvent schemes should be wound up. If the Court cannot give directions about how the costs and expense of winding up an insolvent registered scheme are to be paid, then it is likely that there will be no orderly winding up, and the important public interest to which I have referred will remain unsatisfied.
56 In those circumstances, it seems to me, the power to give directions under ss 601NF(2) includes a power, the full extent of which I do not propose to canvas, to give directions about how the costs and expenses of winding up a scheme should be paid.
57 In particular, where the responsible entity is willing to wind up a scheme and (although insolvent and under external administration) has sufficient assets to enable it to do so, I think that the power to give directions under s 601NF(2) extends to authorising a direction that, to the extent that the assets of the scheme are insufficient, the responsible entity may expend its own assets on the winding up. That is, really, no more than ordering the responsible entity to perform its contractual and statutory obligations.
58 In my view, it follows, on the proper construction of the relevant provisions of Chapter 5C of the Corporations Act and of the constitutions of the schemes, that the Court does have power to give the direction sought.
59 However, Mr Newlinds drew the Court's attention to an aspect of the decision of White J in Re Stacks. His Honour there said at 544 [52] that the power given by s 601NF(2) "authorises the making of directions of a kind which would be made in an administration suit for the purpose of settling the entitlements of members" but "does not authorise the court to confer additional powers upon a responsible entity to which third parties would be made subject, or to interfere with the rights which third parties would otherwise enjoy".
60 Mr Newlinds submitted that his Honour's decision was incorrect, but did not submit that it was plainly wrong.
61 What White J said at 544 [52] should not be read in isolation. The powers sought by the plaintiff in that case were very wide indeed. As his Honour said at 536 [18], the plaintiff sought to have, in respect of the winding up of a registered scheme, all the powers that the liquidator of a company would have in respect of the winding up of the company. The powers sought included, by way of example only, power to require officers and employees to prepare reports as to affairs, to deliver up books and records, and to attend to be examined. As White J said at 537 [19]:
In other words, the plaintiff has adapted the provisions in the
Corporations Act dealing with the winding up of companies to the circumstances of the scheme, and contends that powers can be conferred on the responsible persons, obligations imposed on third parties, and rights of creditors restricted, to bring the winding-up of the scheme into line with the winding-up of companies. …
62 His Honour said that s 601NF(2) did not authorise the grant of such wide powers. I agree. But it does not follow that the power to give directions cannot extend to the direction now in question.
63 To some extent, because RAML is under external administration, the rights of third parties have been affected: for the example, by the provisions of Division 6 of Part 5.3A of the Corporations Act. (I turn to one of the provisions of Division 6 - s 440B - at [69] below.) However, to the extent that third parties' rights remain unaffected by statute, the direction sought (if made) will not take away any right that a third party has, or subject a third party to any form of compulsory process for production of documents or examination. It may be accepted that the effect of the directions sought (if made) would be to divert some of the assets of RAML to the winding up of the schemes, and thus to reduce the assets available to satisfy the claims of its creditors. At most, that affects the ultimate value of the rights of those creditors. To that extent, it may "interfere" with those rights. But whether that is an impermissible interference depends on the statutory scheme. For the reasons that I have given, the statutory scheme envisages, among other things, that insolvent responsible entities continue to have obligations that they are required to perform. Of necessity, the performance of those obligations will involve the expenditure of its resources, to the detriment of creditors. To the extent that this is an interference with the rights of creditors, it is one inherent in the statutory scheme. In those circumstances, to say that it is an impermissible interference with the rights of creditors seems to me to be inconsistent with the statutory scheme.
64 I should add also that in my view, when White J gave as an example of what was authorised by s 601NF(2) "the making of directions of a kind which would be made in an administration suit for the purpose of settling the entitlements of members", his Honour was not intending to give an exhaustive account of the width of the statutory power.
65 Accordingly, I do not think that the conclusion to which I have come is inconsistent with the views of White J in Re Stacks. If I thought that it was, then, in the interests of comity and certainty, I would defer to his Honour's views; but that is not necessary.
66 Thus, I conclude: