John Sutton then sat down and drafted the letter in front of us. He did this without any collaboration with us. When he finished writing the letter by hand he gave it to us … We indicated to him that we would review the letter and let him know if we could send it.
In my experience it was an unusual course of events for a union official to draft a letter for BLL to send. It has never happened to me before or since. However, I was prepared to go along with it because the letter didn't require us to do anything we weren't already doing or planning to do.
48 After the meeting Woodcock indicated to Hensley: "Well that was what we expected". Hensley then made some changes (minor) to the letter; gave it to BLL in-house lawyers (who also suggested minor changes); and then sent it to Sutton.
49 Formal parts apart, the letter stated:
Further to our discussion of this afternoon please see below certain proposals that Bovis Lend Lease is prepared to commit to in relation to its operations in the ACT
1. Rostered Day Off Agreement
Bovis will commit to 3 RDO's in 2003.
Bovis will commit to an additional 7 RDO's in 2004 and a further 3 RDO's in 2005.
Bovis will commit to phase in the RDO's on the above formula with the calendar to be agreed to, consisting of paid leave days, specific shut down weekends centred around key local public holidays, and a residue of a small number of flexible days.
2. Sourcing of additional labour
Bovis will source additional direct labour from former company employees (subject to their availability) and skills in consultation with the ACTU Branch of the CFMEU pending finalisation of the new JDA over the next few months.
3. Labour practices on Landmark Project
Bovis agree that the said project is not a small residential project and will advise it's subcontractors of its expectations on such a project.
Bovis will discuss the current situation of Bernmar Pty Ltd with a view to ensuring that all its workforce is appropriately covered for workers compensation, long service leave, superannuation and redundancy. This situation with Bernmar Pty Ltd will be finalised within 7 days of today's date.
Bovis will ensure all subcontractors on the project are also aware of their obligations in respect to employment practices.
50 On the same day Hensley described the meeting to Little in words to the following effect:
We agreed to send them a letter in which we make certain commitments regarding labour practices on the Landmark Project. I'll send you a copy of it. Basically, it just sets out what we're already doing. We say that we will discuss the current situation of Bernmar with a view to ensuring that all Bernmar's workforce is appropriately covered for workers' compensation, long service leave, superannuation and redundancy. It doesn't say that Bernmar has to have any of those things, but just that we'll discuss the situation to ensure that it's appropriately covered. We also commit to ensuring that all subcontractors on the project are aware of their obligations in respect of employment practices. I don't think it adds anything more than we've been talking about already.
51 As to the meeting and the letter Hensley said in oral evidence that:
(i) he had no clear recollection of Noonan being there for the full meeting and he did not believe he was there when the letter was written;
(ii) the use of the word "appropriately" in the conversation and the letter was significant and meant "appropriate" as discussed with Lancsar, ie there were persons on ABNs "but they've got to be appropriately covered" as well as "appropriately" under the contract (whatever this last may have signified);
(iii) at no time did he understand Sutton was saying to him at the meeting, or any one from the union at any other time, that BLL was to arrange an enterprise bargaining agreement between Bernmar and its workforce;
(iv) moving "Bernmar toward legitimacy" meant to "correct employment relations". The cross-examination of Hensley on this topic is emblematic of how he gave evidence:
Q Now, you then say:
We need some time to move Bernmar toward legitimacy.
Do you see that?
A Yes.
Q Now, by 'legitimacy', you there meant, did you not, legitimacy in terms of the industrial relations between Bernmar and its workforce. Correct?
A It was more the union's definition of 'legitimacy.' They were the ones who raised those words. If it was getting closer to their definition, I was happy there was movement.
Q Mr Hensley, by the use of the term 'legitimacy' there, you had in mind correct employment arrangements, didn't you?
A Yes, of course.
Q By 'correct employment arrangements,' you were there communicating to Mr Sutton that you did not regard the employment relations between Bernmar and its workforce as being correct and that you needed sometime [sic] to move that relationship to a correct position. Isn't that so?
A Certainly the improvement - there needed to be improvement in the relationship and the contractual arrangements. I believed the detail of that wasn't totally known.
Q You, Mr Hensley, when you used the words 'we need sometime [sic] to move Bernmar to legitimacy' had in mind firstly that the relationship between Bernmar and its workforce was not legitimate in the sense that we have discussed. Isn't that so?
A Based on the claim we were told, yes.
Q No, not based on the claim you were told. You had in mind when you used the words that you needed time to move Bernmar towards legitimacy that the relationship between Bernmar and its workforce was not legitimate in the sense that we have discussed. Is that not so?
A We were told that. Certainly the relationship between the union and Bernmar needed improvement, but I would expect - and I have to take it on face value that there were concerns with that relationship between the employees or ABN and Bernmar.
Q Mr Hensley, the words that you used were:
We need sometime [sic] to move Bernmar toward legitimacy.
Do you see that?
A Yes.
Q You were there talking about BLL needing time to move Bernmar toward legitimacy, were you not?
A Yes.
Q What you were communicating to Mr Sutton was, firstly, 'We'; that is, BLL, 'did not regard the relationship between Bernmar and its workforce as being legitimate', in the sense that we have discussed. Is that not so?
A Yes.
Q And secondly that you needed time; that is, BLL needed time, to move that relationship from a position of illegitimacy to one of legitimacy. Is that not so?
A We were on that path, yes.
Q Yes. You were on that path independently of anything that the union had said to you previously. Correct?
A Independently?
Q Yes?
A From 24 February, certainly - sorry - from the 26th when the audit was done, there was movement in improving the paperwork on the job.
Q Yes. Now, you were asked about this, just to be very clear about it, in the interview referred to in MFI 1 [with the ACCC]. You were asked this question:
Did you agree with John Sutton that the Bernmar issue would be fixed?---I'm not sure what you mean by fixed.
That their - - -?---They had to comply. We needed sometime [sic] to move Bernmar towards legitimacy, you know, correct employment arrangements.
Do you recall giving that answer?
A Along those lines, yes.
Q Well, not along those lines. Do you recall giving that answer?
A If that was recorded, yes.
Q Well, let me show you page 79 of MFI 1, top of the page. It's question 477 down to the answer after question 479 above the words 'Ms Lowther.' It's towards the very end. About two pages from the end?
A Yes, I see this.
Q You agree that they were the questions and the answers that you gave as I read them out to you earlier?
A Yes.
Q Those answers which you gave and which I read out were true. Is that not so?
A That's correct.
(v) he agreed that when he read the letter his reaction to it was that he was prepared to go along with it, as he said in his statement, because it did not require BLL to do anything which they were not already doing. His cross-examination on this was as follows:
Q What you were already doing was trying to move Bernmar's relationship with its workforce to a state of legitimacy - isn't that so? - since February 2003. Correct?
A Yes.
Q You were doing that in light of the powers that were reserved to BLL under the schedule of industrial relations under its contract with Bernmar. Isn't that right?
A At that time, referring to the schedule of industrial relations, no. It was about legitimacy and, you say, moving the union and Bernmar together to discuss their relationships.
Q Mr Hensley, we've been through the question of legitimacy before?
A I know.
Q My question to you - and it couldn't have been clear or no doubt you would have given me a direct answer, and I'm sorry if it wasn't, but what you were already doing and had been doing since February was endeavouring to move Bernmar to a state of legitimacy in the relations it had with its employees relying upon the schedule of industrial relations within the contract between Bernmar and BLL. Correct?
A Me personally or the company?
Q The company?
A The company, yes.
Q Yes. Because moving Bernmar's relations with its workforce to a state of legitimacy was a matter of importance to BLL, was it not?
A Yes, it is.
Q And yes it was?
A Yes, it was. It always is.
Q As at 18 March, you - and by 'you' I mean the company BLL - were planning to continue to do so, as best it could, in terms of the schedule of industrial relations. Correct?
A Yes.
In re-examination Hensley said, in reference to this answer, that he did not speak to anyone in the company at or about 18 March 2003 who made reference to the IR Schedule.
(vi) in agreeing to, and sending, the letter Hensley's purpose was not to hinder BLL in its acquisition of services from Bernmar.