Registrar: But the problem with - Mr Galic, the problem with the submission on doubling up is if Mr Ebbs says it's separate work that was done by people, and they're just two people doing work in relation to the same matter but not doing the same work, why should I not accept that? Because if I do not accept that, it's just saying Mr Ebbs is lying about how the bill has been prepared.
Galic, Mr: Look, the reason you wouldn't accept it, not because he's lying or he's not lying, but because unless my friend can tell you exactly what he did and what Ms Onofaro did, you've got not [sic] way of really knowing. Just accepting on face value - it's not a question of him lying or not.
Registrar: Well, he has prepared the bill on the basis and he says that there is no doubling up. So if he maintains the view that there is no doubling up, what I'm asking you is why should I not accept that?
Galic, Mr: Because on its face, in my submission, seven and a half thousand dollars to prepare an appeal book index for an appeal that didn't - - -
Registrar: But it doesn't mean that there's doubling up. It just means that somebody spent a lot of - two people spent a lot of time working independently on aspects of the matter. They may have spent too much time working but it doesn't of itself prove that they did the same tasks in duplication.
Galic, Mr: Well, the other - one other grounds [sic] that we object on the basis that first, they were doubling up, but secondly, it's excessive. Too much work was done here.
Registrar: Well, I have - - -
Galic, Mr: More than what's reasonable.
Registrar: Well, I think you can argue excessive but I think - unless Mr Ebbs says we did the same work and we both charge for doing the same work, which is not, clearly from the reply to the objections is what his contention is, I'm not going to accept that there was doubling up absent you being able to tell me or point to something, because to do so would be to conduct an inquiry into whether or not the bill that has been put before the court is misleading.
So I can accept your submission that it's excessive but unless Mr Ebbs tells me that the same task was done by two people, I'm not going to accept that there was doubling up.