She makes statements in subsequent separate paragraphs of the affidavit concerning her creation of the emails under consideration of 19 October and 25 October 2001. The addressees of the 25 October document were two lawyers in the employ of ASIC, Joanne Rees in Sydney and Thomas Staples in Perth, although copies were sent to other persons. There were eight addressees of the earlier email of 19 October 2001 and a copy was sent to Allen Turton. All persons to whom the emails were addressed or copied were persons within ASIC. In the case of the addressees of the email of 19 October, a number of the addressees were lawyers and a number were not. The first addressee was Steve Howell, who is not a lawyer, but was the Assistant Director, Enforcement, Corporate Investigations South-West and is described as the project sponsor, that is, the person in charge of the One.Tel investigation project at that time. All the persons named except Allen Turton were, at the time, Ms Redfern's inferiors in the organisation. Even Mr Howell, the project sponsor of the investigation, was inferior to and reported to her. Allen Turton was her superior, to whom she reported, but only had an email copied to him rather than being an addressee.
8 I have been greatly assisted by the manner in which counsel have made their submissions to me in this case. In particular, Mr Steele's submissions have been a model of concision and clarity, despite the fact that he has been labouring under the disadvantage of making submissions to me about the contents of documents to which he is not privy. He has submitted to me that, for the documents to attract privilege (and it should be understood that I am referring to the portions of the documents which are masked), the question to be answered is whether Ms Redfern was acting in the capacity of a lawyer providing independent advice to her client, or whether she was acting in an executive capacity. If it is not established on the balance of probabilities that it is in the former capacity that she was acting in making the communications, the documents are not privileged.
9 Mr Steele conceded what had been put to me by Mr Durack to the effect that the courts have emphasised that advice privilege was an important right at common law and, where it is now embodied in the EA, it continues to be an important right. Its purpose, in either case, is to facilitate in the public interest full and frank communications between client and lawyer. Whilst conceding that, Mr Steele has emphasised that the courts are equally jealous to see that the privilege is not extended beyond its proper role.
10 Thus, it is emphasised in Waterford that, where a person is a lawyer, but is not giving advice in that role, the communications should not be protected by privilege. Mr Steele emphasises that Ms Redfern says in her affidavit that in mid October she was reviewing the process of the One.Tel investigation to ensure that it was proceeding satisfactorily. He submits that that smacks of the performance of an executive rather than a legal function. Whatever "mid October" may mean, he points out that her references to her sending of emails of 19 and 25 October 2001 follow in her affidavit shortly after her statement about that review. He refers to the opening paragraph of the 19 October email, which is not masked, wherein she commences by stating that she has had the opportunity to review the progress summary, the notes of the meeting with counsel and the transcript of the interview with Murdoch. He says that I should infer that those actions were part of her executive review of the One.Tel investigation and that context points towards the masked portions that follow as being statements made in the course of, or to report on, or to give instructions arising from that review.
11 He says that the fact that the communications which I am reviewing are downwards communications, ie, communications to persons who were inferiors, is to be contrasted with the situation before White J of an upward communication, ie, an advice directed to the Commissioners.
12 He comments on the fact that no further evidence was called from Ms Redfern as to the purpose of the communications, albeit she was available (in this regard I gather she is presently being cross examined before Austin J, but there would have been no problem in having Austin J release her to give evidence before me if that were deemed appropriate).
13 He comments on the absence of two other features present in relation to the document dealt with in the White judgment. One is the absence of any evidence of a request for legal advice. The other is any explicit statement that what was being conveyed was legal advice. He again emphasises that it would not be enough that what appeared in the masked portions of the documents could be characterised as legal advice. He emphasises that more has to be shown, namely, that she was giving legal advice in an independent capacity as a lawyer. Because she had two hats, each of which she wore from time to time at the relevant period, the Court would not be likely to find that she was acting, in sending these emails, as a solicitor advising her client rather than the Director of Enforcement giving instructions and guidance to subordinates. He cites in that regard what was said by Gibbs CJ in Attorney General (NT) v Kearney (1985) 158 CLR 500 at 510:
"The advice will not be privileged if the legal adviser gives it in some other capacity (eg as an officer of a non-legal department) ..."