Evidence of statements made by the appellant
- A sound recording of the conversation was covertly recorded by the complainant, which, together with the transcript, were tendered without objection at trial. I have listened to the entirety of the sound recording. It lasts some seven minutes. Some of the appellant's responses are difficult to make out, while the complainant's voice is much clearer, consistently with her concealing the mobile handset. It is clear from the fact that the complainant did not at that stage know the appellant's identity that it preceded the appellant's providing her with copies of his ID. Based on the statement in the police officer's notebook concerning the timestamp on the photograph of the appellant's ID being "about 4am", it follows that the conversation took place sometime before 4am.
- The recorded conversation proceeds as follows (it followed some unrecorded conversation as to which the complainant and Khalel gave evidence):
[Complainant]: Why you put your hands to my pussy?
[Appellant]: (soft voice) I don't know. (Inaudible response)
[Complainant]: Because I was so drunk, I was slept.
[Appellant]: uhhuh
[Complainant]: You don't know me and I don't know you.
[Appellant]: Yeah
[Complainant]: But why? And I was sleeping.
[Appellant]: (Inaudible response)
[Complainant]: Why?
[Appellant]: (Softly) Coz I'm stupid
[Complainant]: Huh
[Appellant]: Coz I'm stupid
[Complainant]: Pardon
[Appellant]: coz I'm stupid I did something stupid, very stupid
[Complainant]: Stupid?
[Appellant]: mm
[Complainant]: It's not excuse
[Appellant]: Yeah, it is not.
[Complainant]: Anyway, you raped me, you know what is rape? Without agree you put something hands or something your dick. Your did anyway I can feel it even though I was drunk. I was sleeping I was a little bit awake, but I was scared because I don't know who you are and I don't know whose dick, I don't know whose hands and I don't know who's there
[Appellant]: Yeah
- After asking for and obtaining the appellant's details and saying she was going to speak to a friend and determine whether she would report to police, the conversation proceeded:
[Complainant]: I'm gonna do. I don't mind if you were something doing here or not anyway your crime your your your crime raped so if I need I will, cause you shouldn't do that but you did
[Appellant]: Yeah alright I understand (inaudible response)
[Complainant]: Why you did I can't understand even you don't know but you just. Your hands is something put inside the other girls who you never met at before? When the girls they have no, never like out of the mind?
[Appellant]: (Inaudible response)
[Complainant]: Anyway I'm I will talk to my friend now
[Appellant]: Ok (inaudible response)
[Complainant]: You made trouble in his house
[Appellant]: I did
[Complainant]: If I didn't awake maybe you do something wrong or other things too
[Appellant]: Now I (inaudible response) (Speaking in a foreign language)
[Complainant]: Huh?
[Appellant]: I said to say I'm really sorry I know I shouldn't have done that and
[Complainant]: But anyway you did
[Appellant]: Yeah I know nothing can take it back for what I did
- The appellant attended Surry Hills police station at about 2pm that Sunday afternoon. The timing of the attendance and the content of the interview suggest that he did so voluntarily. He was arrested, and confronted with the allegation that between 4 and 4.15am that morning, being 21 June 2020, he had digitally penetrated the complainant's vagina with his fingers while she was asleep on the couch in the living room of the Surry Hills premises.
- Early in the interview the appellant volunteered "Oh, look, I don't know if I'm putting my, the rope on my neck or whatever, but, uh, the allegations are true". He explained that he did not have any interaction with the complainant at the party prior to the assault. He said "just maybe looking at each other a bit", but agreed that there was "no talking, no flirtation, [he] didn't go over to her". He volunteered that he had smoked some marijuana as well as drinking. The appellant then said that he saw the complainant lying on a couch, sleeping and "I start just touching her a bit". He drew a picture of two couches facing each other, and said that he and a male friend were seated on one couch with the complainant lying on the other. He then moved to the other couch and sat at its end by her feet. He said that she was sleeping sideways and he was rubbing her back and leg underneath the blanket, although not under her clothes at that time. He then said that he placed two fingers of his left hand inside her underwear and into her vagina. At first he said it was around 10 minutes and he was then asked whether he understood what 10 minutes was because it was a long time. The officer then timed a minute in order to give an indication of how long a minute is, following which the appellant said the following:
Look, I, uh, I got, got a daughter see ….. and I have f, like, this is bad, like, this is the only time I've, uh, I would say, I would say, with all due respect, I will kill the bloke that do that to my daughter ….. that's, uh, that, that's why I'm, I'm saying everything as it is. I, uh, I would like to apolo, look, ah, I, I can't do anything just by deal with my own actions and pay for whatever I have to pay. And, but, yeah, no, I just feel very sorry for, for the girl, for, for, for my daughter because, in a---
- The appellant then stated that he had his fingers in the complainant's vagina for five minutes and volunteered that he was "wanking myself as well". He then gave this evidence:
Yes, OK. Did you have your penis out?
[Appellant]: I, I did.
You did. Uh, it was erect.
[Appellant]: It was.
Yep. Did you at, at any point penetrate her, did you put your penis in her vagina?
[Appellant]: No.
Ok. What was the girl doing when you were penetrating her with your fingers?
[Appellant]: Nothing. She just moved, moved a bit, I d, I d, uh, probably uncomfortable, it could have been anything.
- He gave clear admissions that it did not look as if the complainant was consenting and that he had never received a verbal consent. He then explained the following:
Yep. So you think it's happened for about 5 minutes. You, while you were digitally, fingers in her vagina, you were also wanking with the other hand.
[Appellant]: Yes.
So you had your left hand two fingers in her vagina while you were wanking with your right hand.
[Appellant]: Ah, I will, I will occasionally use my left hand as well, but---
Ok. So bo, both.
[Appellant]: Yeah.
Ok. Um, did you ejaculate?
[Appellant]: I did.
You did.
[Appellant]: Hmm.
On the couch or---
[Appellant]: On the couch.
On the couch. How did you get rid of the ejaculation?
[Appellant]: I'm sorry?
How did you get rid of the, the fluid that came out of your penis?
[Appellant]: I was pissed, I was pissed, I just put my pants back on.
OK. So you just wiped it with your underwear or---
[Appellant]: Yes.
Are you still wearing those underwear?
[Appellant]: Ah, no, but they're in the backpack.
It's in the backpack, OK.
[Appellant]: Yeah.
All right. Um, and did you ejaculate on the couch, do you remember?
[Appellant]: Yes.
You did.
[Appellant]: Yes.
- The underwear were provided to the police for forensic examination, and a photograph was tendered at trial. The police also took a patch from the semen-stained doona.
- The appellant then described the confrontation by the appellant in the presence of Khalel:
OK. And then after that, the next memory is, is Khalel and this girl confronting you. How did they confront you, tell me the conversation.
[Appellant]: Ah, she asked me, she asked me if I did what I did.
Uh-huh. And what did you do, what, what did she say, what, what can you remember?
[Appellant]: Ah, I agreed. I said, Yes, I'm really sorry.
But what did she say to you?
[Appellant]: She, she said, she didn't wanted to leave me, she didn't wanted me to leave, ah, she asked me for my ID, I gave her my ID, she took a photo of it or whatever she did, and, and then after she got my ID, she I, sort of, let me go, like, yeah. And, and Khalel and, and, and her, so, Khalel was asking me what happened and, and I, and I said, I said to him, well, what happened and she try to ring her boyfriend, I remember. And yeah, I, I don't know w, why she didn't ring the police then, I have no idea, I would have stayed, and, yeah, what else, what, what else can I, you help me with saying, like, as in, yeah, it's all a scatter, scattered here.
- The officer returned to what had been said during the confrontation between the appellant, the complainant and Khalel:
Um, so, you said Khalel and [the complainant] confronted you, what did they say to you exactly and what did you agree you did?
[Appellant]: I agreed I touched her. She, she, she said to me, Did you put my penis, did you p, you put your penis inside me?
…
[Appellant]: As well, I can tell the difference between a penis and fingers, she said to me. But I said to her, I, I did not, ah, I, I said something rude to her, probably from the context, I said, um, I don't know, yeah, I know you probably do know how a penis feel. But then I, I said to her right back, I said, I didn't put my penis in, ah, I did touch you, I did this and this I feel very sorry. I tr, try and apologise. It will never be enough, it was just, it will never be enough for those situations. And, yeah.
- Shortly thereafter, the officers played the recording made by the complainant. The first things the appellant said were that he remembered the conversation and that he didn't know that she was recording. He identified himself and the complainant. He was then asked these questions:
So you only put your fingers in her vagina.
[Appellant]: Yes.
At no point did you put your penis in her vagina.
[Appellant]: No.
- Towards the end of the interview he was squarely confronted, once again, with the allegation that he had not only used his finger but also had put his penis in the complainant's vagina, which he denied.
- At no stage was he confronted with any allegation of cunnilingus. The complainant had not told anyone of that at that stage.
- During oral address before this Court, counsel for the appellant drew attention to the following exchange at the conclusion of the interview:
[Appellant]: Oh my God. Was she, was she bad?
Sorry?
[Appellant]: Was she bad?
Was she bad.
[Appellant]: As in, like, like, mentally.
Um, yeah, so, I haven't personally met her yet, but, um, the fact that she's come to the police, she knows that someone's violated her.
[Appellant]: A hundred per cent.
Yep.
[Appellant]: Can I ask her just a random personal question, what, what's the worst case scenario for a person like me doing this.
OK. Let's talk after the recording finishes. At the moment, we're, we're audio and video recording, yeah.
[Appellant]: Yeah.
So we'll just get the Sergeant, he'll ask you some questions about how the con, conduct of the interview went, um, and then we'll, we'll finish the interview process.
[Appellant]: OK. I'm just really sorry. All I'm thinking is of my daughter. Not, not because of whatever happens to me, it's just because on, on, on what I did and what it, what, what it will mean for her probably if she ever hear that, but that's on me. I don't …..
- There were also numerous statements made by people who attended the party or its aftermath. Six of those statements were tendered. Only one contains any evidence of what the complainant said. It is the statement of the paramedic. It was made on 7 October 2020, and her recollection was based upon the ambulance electronic record. She said that the complainant had told her that "She got woken up by a male person fingering her but she wasn't 100percent sure if he penetrated her with his penis as well". The statement also included "The patient when I spoke to her would get intermittently emotional and cry. The patient seemed to be aware of the situation and understood everything I said."