MR PALMER: All of these are just figures. They're just figures on a piece of paper. They relate to nothing of value. ...
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[JUDGE]: ... what you're saying is the whole business community, financial industry, the internet transactions we engage in, financial transactions we engage in, all virtual reality, nothing real, no money.
MR PALMER: That's it ... this is what needs to be fleshed out in court. Where is the value? Where did the money come from? It has to go back to something of value somewhere. If they can't prove that it has value somewhere, then they have no claim that they've suffered a loss. If they haven't suffered a loss, what are they doing?
[JUDGE]: I'm sorry, but courts engage in all sorts of inquiries but the one that you're suggesting that there is a reality totally different to that which we operate in is not something we have time to investigate in court, I'm afraid. ... the defence you've sought to run that there is no value in this, which is really what you're saying, your argument seeks to challenge the very foundation of the financial system.
MR PALMER: Yes, Your Honour.
[JUDGE]: I'm just a judge. I can't do that.
MR PALMER: I'm not asking you to do anything. All I'm asking you to do is allow this to go to trial.
[JUDGE]: I don't think I can allow it to go to trial to pursue that.