62 I have given very careful consideration to the evidence and the submissions of the parties in this matter.
63 The parties correctly identified that the appropriate standard of proof to be applied in matters relating to misconduct, commonly referred to as the Briginshaw v Briginshaw standard. The tests in Briginshaw v Briginshaw have been applied in numerous decisions of this Commission, and indeed were applied in Wang v Crestell.
64 I have also had the opportunity during the course of these proceedings of observing the demeanour of the applicant. It was quite clear from the difficulties that were encountered, particularly by Mr Meehan and indeed by the Commission, in putting questions to the applicant and having the applicant understand what was being asked of her, and indeed being able to respond that there were communication problems. Certainly there can be no issue that Mr Meehan did not ask reasonably straightforward questions, but on many occasions the language that Mr Meehan used was clearly not being understood by the applicant.
65 It is quite clear from the evidence, in my very firm view, that in this matter we have an applicant who has placed her trust in a person from the same ethnic background, and relied on that person and the efforts that he was expected to expend on her behalf in relation to the purchase of the property and the various loan applications.
66 When one looks at the documentation relating to this matter it is clear that a number of questions can be raised about Mr Vellu. One notes that he purports to represent Park Trent Properties and yet evidently is located at an estate agent that does not appear as the agent on the Contract of Sale (Exhibit 4). When you look at Exhibit 4, and all the subsequent versions of the Contract, they indicate that the agent for the Wentworthville property is Visa Vellupillai. No mention was made of Raine & Horne, although I note that Mr Wood in making his inquiries in relation to the loan application in September contacted Raine & Horne to inquire as to the security of the property and was advised by a gentleman at Raine & Horne that they could not find the property listed. However, once Mr Vellu's name was mentioned it was indicated that he was a partner and therefore it must be okay. In my mind that raises considerable doubt as to whether Raine & Horne had any knowledge of this transaction at all, and indeed raises doubt about Mr Vellu's role in the whole matter.
67 It was apparent, in response to questions from the Commission, that Ms Kasippillai did not appreciate that Mr Vellu was in fact acting on behalf of the vendor and was not in fact acting as her agent. It is also apparent from questions from the Commission that the vendor, as listed on the various contracts, is also a person of Tamil extraction. Certainly the Commission cannot draw any firm conclusions but it is equally certain there great deal of suspicions are raised as a consequence of the activities of Mr Vellu in particular and his whole role in this matter.
68 It should be noted that in response to the submissions made by Mr Meehan that there had been an earlier loan application that was not acknowledged by Ms Kasippillai, the initial inquiry by her of Mr Vellu seems to have been
a general one about a loan application. She provided a whole lot of information, documentation, driver's licence, payslips, bank statements and so forth, very early in the piece, in February. She asked him about the progress of the loan application but it is quite clear that at that stage no actual loan application had been completed by her. That application is not completed until June because Mr Vellu told her that she must have another six months of employment and three more payslips, which she subsequently provided.
69 The reason given for the failure of the June application is that she has insufficient money in the bank and an insufficient deposit. That is when further issues are raised about the uncle and the assistance with the deposit and it can be noted from her bank records that the additional money for the $5,000 that she was obtaining was in fact deposited in her bank account in September. only a matter of a week or two prior to the phone call with Mr Wood.
70 Under normal circumstances one would have thought it would raise suspicion in the minds of anyone that all the dealings with this agent are conducted either where Ms Kasippillai resides, or over the phone never at his office. Indeed I note that at one stage when she is to provide further documentation to Mr Vellu she is asked to place it in the letterbox of the premises of the Wentworthville property, where at that stage she has moved to - that is in August.
71 It is quite clear from the additional contract documents that were obtained on subpoena from Liberty Finance that there have been alterations made in liquid paper to that documentation. Who has made those alterations cannot be established and there was clearly insufficient evidence to make any findings in relation to that issue.
72 I further note that the evidence of Mr Wood clearly indicates that he in fact only made one call, as listed on that spreadsheet, and that was to the applicant He he made a call to Raine & Horne. The other entries on the spreadsheet emanate from another person at the company.. There is reference at the first entry of the spreadsheet to a second call to "the employer", (The Village) presumably there was an earlier call to the employer which is not noted. Given that Mr Wood on his evidence, only had one phone conversation with the applicant and given the clear and obvious difficulty that the applicant had in understanding Mr Meehan's questions and sometimes the Commission and Mr Meehan and Mr Berwick understanding the applicant's responses I have no doubt whatsoever that there could clearly have been a misunderstanding on the part of Mr Wood of what she was telling him. It is apparent that the valuation of the property was $340,000 and apparent there is no doubt that properties can be valued at amounts either higher than or lower than the purchase price.
73 I accept the submissions that are made by Mr Berwick that obviously Mr Vellu and Mr Syed are persons who also have a financial interest in this transaction They operate in an industry where there are commissions that are paid. There is not sufficient evidence to establish just what the relationship is between Liberty Finance and Mr Syed as a broker on behalf of Mr Vellu nor what other financial benefits might have emanated to either person.
74 It does not take anyone of very great intelligence or very much imagination to look at the fact that Ms Kasippillai is not the only one with a vested interested in a successful loan application. Indeed, whilst the real estate industry and the finance industry are replete with very genuine, honest, upright and reputable companies, there is no doubt that in those two industries there has been publicity over recent years about rogues in the industry who seek to take advantage of the gullible in the community to their own financial advantage, nor only in relation to mortgages and finance, but also in relation to the purchase and sale of properties.
75 It is clear that Ms Kasippillai placed her trust in Mr Vellu principally, I believe, on the basis of the shared Tamil background. If she is guilty of anything it is being naïve and gullible.
76 I do not believe that Ms Kasippillai in any way was responsible for production of the letter purported to come from the finance manager, or indeed the group certificate.
77 The information that Ms Kasippillai had provided to Mr Vellu would have enabled a group certificate to have been prepared and these days those types of group certificates can be readily generated by most computer accountancy programs. It is not difficult. She had provided information in relation to her taxation return and assessment, and it would have been abundantly easy for a third party to get hold of letterhead from St Joseph's Village.
78 Certainly I have examined and compared the letterhead that was provided by the applicant to Mr Vellu by way of her original letter of casual employment, and her subsequent letter confirming her permanent employment, and yes, there are differences between that type of letterhead, particularly in relation to the bottom, and the letterhead that purports to be from the Finance Manager. However, I do not consider that that is totally fatal to the appicant's case such material could have been obtained in any number of ways, as could have the information relating to the salary of a registered nurse.
79 Estate agents and persons involved in providing finance and assisting in finance being obtained, clearly have dealings with a variety of people in the community and therefore acquire a variety of knowledge about various occupations and the levels of remuneration that are available. That type of information is readily available on the internet and from the Department of Commerce. To imply that the position of this specific title, Finance Manager, and other information that was purportedly only available to the applicant and not available to anyone else is not reasonable. This is not a secret organisation, we are not talking about classified documentation and information that could not be obtained by some person who sought to use it inappropriately.
80 The onus is clearly on the respondent to establish that misconduct took place and that that misconduct warranted summary termination. The decision that is generally applied is Pastrycooks Employees, Biscuit Makers Employees & Flour and Sugar Goods Workers Union (NSW) v Gartrell White (No 3) (1990) 35 IR 70 that was applied in Wang v Crestell and has been applied in numerous other decisions of this Commission.
81 The Commission must then be satisfied that that onus has been discharged and misconduct has occurred. In New South Wales Fire Brigades Employees' Union (on behalf of Natoli) v New South Wales Fire Brigades (2005) NSWIRComm 440, Sams DP identified at paragraph 218 that four questions arise for consideration in cases for summary dismissal for misconduct.
1. Was the conduct against the dismissed employee proven?
2. Did the seriousness of the conduct justify summary dismissal?
3. Did the conduct constitute a fundamental and wilful repudiation of the contract of employment?
4. Were mitigating factors taken into account?
82 The standard I need to apply in considering those issues is the Briginshaw v Briginshaw standard. Applying the Briginshaw v Briginshaw standard I am unable to find that the respondent has established that Ms Kasippillah committed the misconduct of which she was accused. I am of the very firm view, having heard the evidence of the applicant, having considered all of the evidence, that she was an innocent and gullible victim of someone else's misconduct in this case. In arriving at that conclusion I have taken into account the evidence, the submissions of the parties and the demeanour of the applicant.
83 If I answer the first question posited by Sams DP entirely in the negative, it is then unnecessary for me to consider the remaining three questions posed.
84 Whilst the onus is on the company to establish that misconduct has occurred, per Pastrycooks, there still remains the onus on the applicant to establish that the termination was harsh, unjust or unreasonable, per Western Suburbs District Ambulance v Tipping (1957) IRNSW 273.
85 A dismissal can be both substantively and procedurally unfair, and the case usually quoted in this regard is the High Court judgment in Byrne & Anor v Australian Airlines (1995) 61 IR at page 72.
86 Having found on the evidence before me, and applying the standards required, that misconduct did not occur it follows that on substantive grounds the dismissal of Ms Kasippillah was harsh, it was unjust and it was unreasonable.
87 In relation to concepts of procedural fairness Byrne & Anor v Australian Airlines has also been relied upon in Full Bench decisions of this Commission, including Wang v Crestell Industry, Rapp v Wauchope RSL Club (1998) 81 IR 116, Bigg & Anor, New South Wales Police Service (1998) 80 IR 434, Burke v McGirr (1998) 87 IR 54, Busways v Johnson (1994) 55 IR 255, Antonakopoulos v State Bank (1999) 91 IR 385 and was also relied on by Sams DP in Natoli.
88 I do have some concerns that the procedures followed by the respondent in relation to the interview process. The respondent cannot be faulted for the process as a whole, in terms of it properly put the allegations to the applicant in writing; giving her a copy of the letter; holding interviews at which she had the opportunity of having a witness present; interviews were taped; there were copies available of the interview process; she was able to go away and seek further information if that was available. The respondent made further inquiries and there was a second interview before the decision to terminate was made and termination took place.