For the Respondent
35 Mr Peter Ovenden, Company Director, provided affidavit and oral evidence. In his affidavit, Ex'C', he described the facilities provided in Global Gossip stores operating throughout Australia.
36 There is no dispute as to the employment history of the applicant, except Mr Ovenden says the applicant verbally resigned on 27 August 1999. No resignation letter was ever received. He said that as a casual, the applicant was offered varying hours, according to a roster published in advance, and depending on each store's changing circumstances.
37 Mr Ovenden said that in late June 1999, reacting to a seasonal downturn, the company introduced a cost saving policy by reducing hours. He said as a general rule the hours in all stores were reduced by fifty per week. The hours were increased in August 1999 following a promotional strategy.
38 In reply to the applicant's statement, Mr Ovenden agreed that he had told him he should have contacted someone at Head Office about the 27 May incident, but denies the applicant's version of the conversation and denies that he violently shook papers at him.
39 In cross examination, Mr Ovenden said he visited the Oxford Street store, at least once a week, sometimes spending two or three hours in the store. However, he had not worked alongside the applicant in the Oxford Street store.
40 Of the four directors, two were working directors and two were not. Mr Overden said, as a director, he had no involvement in rostering of staff, but he had a responsibility in terms of broad policy decision making, such as the decision to reduce overall hours due to the winter months downturn. There was no written directive to this effect; rather he instructed the Director of Operations to reduce overall hours.
41 In respect to the resignation letter, Mr Ovenden had undertaken inquiries at Head Office and the Oxford Street store and no one had received, or had seen such a letter.
42 Mr Ovenden said that it was the management who raised the issue of employees possibly viewed as colluding in a crime, if they did not report an alleged illegal incident. He had discussed with the applicant, management's view that employees should notify management, rather than contacting the authorities themselves. He accepted that he had been "very upset" the Police were called on 27 May, before Head Office was notified.
43 He said the policy was put in place the day after the incident, following discussions at senior management level. He said he was not annoyed that the applicant refused to abide by the policy.
44 Mr Ovenden was asked about the two rosters before the Commission and said that, apart from displaying the roster in the store and the e-mail (Ex'B'), which had no attachment, there was no other documentary evidence that proves the applicant received the second roster.
45 Mr Geoffrey Fisher is the respondent's operations manager. He had been a temporary manager in the Oxford Street store for a short time from 14 August 1999.
46 He describes the meeting with the applicant at about 5.00 pm on 19 August 1999. The applicant had said he was looking for more hours, but had felt Ms Lascelles and upper management wanted him out. Mr Fisher said he knew the applicant was working at Grace Bros, but didn't know his shifts and the applicant didn't raise it at the meeting (the applicant's version of the conversation is disputed by Mr Fisher).
47 Mr Fisher said he sent the second roster to the applicant on 19 or 20 August, providing him with a total of 22 hours and 32 hours, respectively, in the subsequent two weeks.
48 He had not heard from the applicant until the morning of 27 August (the applicant says it was the night before). Mr Fisher said the applicant had said "I can't work for Global Gossip any longer because I can't work two jobs. Please tell Peter and Phil that I will send in a resignation letter"
49 The applicant had not mentioned his roster conflicting with his roster at Grace Bros.
50 In cross examination, Mr Fisher was shown Ex'4' and said he prepared this roster after 5.00 pm on 19 August when it was sent by e-mail to all staff (possibly on 21 August) and pinned on the notice board. It was prepared after the meeting with the applicant on 19 August. It was subsequently altered and re-sent on 20 August (Ex'B' shows it sent on 22 August). He said it was not uncommon for rosters to be adjusted, depending on changed circumstances, or an employee's personal requests.
51 He gave evidence that he couldn't remember which day it was sent and said the confusion of the time of Sunday 4.25 am, as disclosed on the e-mail, might have referred to the time in the United States.
52 He reaffirmed that the applicant had phoned him on the morning of 27 August; the applicant had not asked him to change the roster and if he had, he would have tried to accommodate him.
53 In further questioning Mr Fisher said that Ex'B' reveals that there was a roster attached to the e-mail of 22 August and that the message was relayed through the United States as Hotmail is based there.
54 In cross examination, Mr Fisher said that he started working for Global Gossip as a casual in April 1999 and became operations manager in July 1999. In the hierarchy, all store managers report to him and he reports to the director of operations, Kylie Drury. He said that until the staffing system was changed in September 1999 there had been no supervisor at the Oxford Street store from the middle of June. He had been acting store manager from 14 August to 23 August and had prepared the rosters for the two weeks commencing 23 August. He accepted this was the first occasion he had prepared rosters for the Oxford Street store. He had received no instructions as to the requirements for drafting the roster, nor did he look at past rosters, or ask anyone about them. He said, while he was aware the applicant worked at Grace Bros, he didn't know the details.
55 Mr Fisher gave further evidence of the meeting with the applicant on 19 August. There had been discussion of the illegal incident and the applicant had said his hours had been reduced because of that incident. Mr Fisher had told him that as a casual he could have been finished up at any time. He had told him that Ms Lascelles had expressed concerns as to his not attending meetings. The applicant had refuted these allegations.
56 Mr Fisher had participated in the management meeting in June 1999 which determined to reduce hours - it had not been store specific. There had been no discussion about the affects on individual staff or putting a freeze on engaging new staff. He accepted good management practice would be to minimise the impact on existing staff and not employ new staff.
57 Mr Fisher says he was absolutely certain the applicant called him on Friday morning, 27 August (not the night before) because he was left short staffed for that night. In this phone call, he recalled the applicant only said he "could not work two jobs" and not that it was "two jobs at the same time". He had understood him to mean that he could only work one job and he had chosen Grace Bros because he had added "I resign" and a letter of resignation would be sent. Mr Fisher had not dissuaded him from resigning because earlier offers of help had not been followed up by the applicant. He denied it was a "relief" that he had resigned.