Alleged Misconduct of 30 October 2009
49Paragraph 1 of the 24 May 2010 letter of Ms Hartigan sets out the four complaints which she held to be misconduct.
50Paragraph 1(a) states that the applicant said to the class, in respect of Mr Page, words to the effect, "one of you put your hand up to kick him out or I will".
51The Commission is unable to determine the source for Ms Hartigan's finding that these were the words uttered by the applicant - given that none of the complaints by the students assert that the applicant/teacher uttered these words in class. Their complaints (Complaint Form) are part of Exhibit 6/TAB 2. Three of the students refer to the applicant asking the class "to vote" Mr Page out of the class. (see Complaint Form of Page, Thomas and Guest) The fourth student (Madgwick) records nothing of this issue.
52Ms Hartigan, under cross-examination, said she read the investigator's report "thoroughly and (that) I consider thoroughly the information that's given to me". (Tr 09/06/11, pg 12, line 8 to 20)
53The investigator interviewed Page, Thomas and Madgwick. He had an informal interview (which were documented in file notes arising out of telephone conversations and e-mail messages) with Mr Guest (the fourth student) It is only Mr Madgwick who utters the almost identical words set out by Ms Hartigan in her 24 May letter.
54Mr Madgwick told the investigator the following: "One of you put your hand up to kick him out and I will". (Ex 6, TAB 7, pg10) (emphasis added) Ms Hartigan's wording set out in her letter of 24 May, uses the word "or" instead of "and".
55Although Page, Thomas and Guest agreed that the applicant said the words "to vote" Page out of the classroom, and not "kick" Page out, Ms Hartigan seems to have decided to use Mr Madgwick's version of the words uttered. His version was put for the first time on 4 December 2009 - several weeks after the incident. He did not refer to this incident in his Complaint Form, dated 6 November 2009.
56There is a distinction, in the Commission's mind, between voting a student out of the classroom, as opposed to kicking out which can carry a connotation of physical force being applied.
57The Commission finds, based on the evidence of Page, Thomas and Guest, that the words uttered were as follows: "to vote on whether or not a student, Mr Zachary Page should be excluded from the class".
58Ms Hartigan states that it is her opinion that her version of the words uttered by the applicant, constitute misconduct. No explicit explanation is advanced by Ms Hartigan in her 24 May letter as to why that is so. On the second page of her 24 May letter she refers to an act of parliament and its objectives which require that appropriate standards of conduct and work related performance be maintained, that the integrity and reputation of TAFE and staff members be protected and enhanced and that the public interest be protected, but otherwise no explicit explanation is advanced to support her finding of misconduct.
59The Commission read the interview transcripts of the investigator for Page, Thomas and Madgwick. Even though the "to vote" utterance was made to Page, he was not interviewed about that issue. Nor was Thomas questioned about that issue. It is only Madgwick who raises the issue and then he uses a version of words ("kick him out") not accepted by the investigator.
60In reading the transcripts of interview, the Commission sought to understand the context in which the accepted version of words was uttered. As only Madgwick raised the issue before the investigator, then his interview is the one for seeking to establish context. The investigator asked what brought on the applicant uttering the Madgwick/Hartigan version of words. Mr Madgwick gives a speculative response as to what was in the mind of the applicant and that speculation is of no assistance as to context. Mr Madgwick is further questioned on the issue by reference to Page's personality which was described as being "a bit out there". Importantly, as to context, Madgwick states that Page's conduct was "not that bad" in respect of attempting to explain the utterance by the applicant. (Ex 6, TAB 7, pp9-10)
61The Commission is not able to ascertain the context as to the words uttered. Were the words uttered in aggression or anger or in jest? The Commission does not know. The onus was on the respondent to show that these words constituted misconduct and the respondent has failed to do so.
62The second complaint against the applicant is set out in paragraph 1(b) and is as follows: "When Mr Page was late back after "smoko break" and he was passing by you, you aggressively grabbed him on the arm."
63Again, as for the first allegation above, Ms Hartigan's letter of 24 May does not cite the appropriate policy document that catches this particular type of conduct ("aggressively grabbed").
64The investigator interviewed Page and Thomas who were the only students who gave information about this incident. Page's Complaint Form states that the applicant "grabbed me aggressively grabbed me on the arm. I told him to let go and that he's not permitted to do that." (Ex 6, TAB 2) The context for this incident is that Page and other students were late back for class after a smoko break. The applicant asked/told Page (the first student to enter the classroom) to sign the roll book acknowledging his lateness and was also told by the applicant that Page's employer would be advised of the lateness. Page said that telling his boss would cause problems and walked away from the applicant who then grabbed him.
65Mr Thomas' Complaint Form of 6 November 2009, stated that the applicant "laid a hand on a student in the class...." (Ex 6, TAB 2) His original complaint does not use the term, "aggressively grabbed". In the interview with the investigator on 4 December 2009, Thomas said that the applicant grabbed Page and pulled him back. He advised he could not say if the grab was done with force. He also stated that when Page told the applicant that the latter was not allowed to touch Page, the applicant responded, "I'm sorry, I'm sorry for touching you". (Ex 6, TAB 6, pp8-10)
66Mr Page was cross-examined and his evidence was to initially say that the grabbing was not an assault but in the same answer said he was grabbed pretty damn hard and "come to think about it, it was pretty much assault". (Tr 07/06/11, p58, line 31-42)
67The applicant denied this allegation.
68Given the foregoing evidence of Page and Thomas, the Commission concluded on the balance of probabilities, that the applicant grabbed Page and according to Page, did so aggressively.
69Ms Hartigan's letter of 24 May is silent on what policy was breached by this conduct and why that conduct constituted misconduct. Ms Hartigan's witness statement is silent, as well on this specific policy breach issue.
70Ms Hartigan's witness statement refers to the Code of Conduct but no specific policy section is identified as dealing with physical contact between teacher and student. The Commission's reading of the Code of Conduct identifies a section on this issue: Relationships Between Staff And Students (Ex 6/TAB 3). Paragraph 29 of that section is headed: Physical contact with students. Paragraph 29.1 reads:
"Staff must not engage in conduct that could assault a child, young person or student. Assault generally involves either hostile or reckless application of force or the threat of some force, regardless of whether harm to the child, young person or student has been established".
71If the foregoing extract represents the policy breached by the applicant by his conduct finding of having "aggressively grabbed" a student, then in what way does "aggressively grabbed" marry up with "hostile or reckless application of force"? The witness statement of Ms Hartigan is silent on the point - let alone her letter of 24 May 2010.
72The student Page who made the initial complaint of being, "aggressively grabbed", said under cross-examination that it was "pretty much assault" but did not elaborate further in order to determine if his use of the word "assault" translated into "hostile or reckless application of force".
73The Commission has found that the conduct of "aggressively grabbed" alleged by Page and supported by Thomas, took place. The Commission was not taken to the policy said to be breached by this conduct. The Commission believes that the relevant policy on assault is paragraph 29 of the Code of Conduct. Evidence was not provided to show that "aggressively grabbed" equated to "hostile or reckless application of force" in order to meet the definition of "assault". However, the evidence of Page was that he was grabbed "pretty damn hard" and the context surrounding that incident, including the immediate contrition, leads to the Commission finding that the conduct by the applicant was inappropriate and a matter for the head teacher to take up with the applicant.
74The third complaint is set out in paragraph 1(c) as follows: "You called Mr Page a "fuckwit" and a "dickhead".
75The applicant denied this allegation.
76The Complaint Form of Page dated 6 November 2009, sets out the above assertion. The Complaint Form of Guest, same date, records the applicant using the same language but does not identify the student. In his interview with the investigator on 4 December 2009, Thomas identified the student as Page. (Ex 6, TAB 6, pg 14) Thomas said nothing of this issue in his Complaint Form but in his interview advised that the applicant had used the above two terms to Page. (Ex 6, TAB 6, pg10)
77Ms Hartigan's letter of 24 May does not identify which policy has been breached by this allegation.
78In her witness statement, Ms Hartigan refers to the manner in which the applicant spoke to Page and said that that manner "was inconsistent with the duty of care to students, and the Code of Conduct requirement to ensure work place communication is professional and respectful to students and colleagues". (Ex 5, para 35) There is no referencing to the section/paragraph of the Code of Conduct being sourced by Ms Hartigan. The Commission's reading of the Code of Conduct, has identified two paragraphs that arguably would be on point: "Professional and appropriate behaviour" (paragraph 16.8) and "Respect for people and property" (paragraph 17.1).
79The Commission finds, on the balance of probabilities, that the applicant engaged in the conduct as alleged: he called Page a "fuckwit" and a "dickhead".
80The Commission was given evidence that the swearing by the applicant was not restricted to him. Mr Guest stated that students swear from "time to time", and that "it happens" that TAFE teachers swear. (Tr 09/06/11, p34, line 1 to 20)
Assuming that the two policy references referred to above are on point, the Commission holds that the use of the term "fuckwit" to label a student is inappropriate and more than that, it would arguably constitute misconduct given its belittling and obscene nature. This incident was a matter where the respondent could decide to apply disciplinary action but not that of dismissal. The applicant's length of service and this one-off incident mitigates against dismissal. The use of the term "dickhead" is inappropriate, but is not viewed by the Commission as constituting misconduct because it is not used in an obscene way.
81The fourth allegation is paragraph 1(d) and is as follows: "As Mr Page was heading out for lunch he said to you "if you are not going to teach us is there any point being here?" and you replied "if you don't like it go home" ".
82Ms Hartigan's letter of 24 May does not explain why this allegation constitutes a finding by her of misconduct.
83The applicant was written to by letter of 22 December 2009 by the investigator. This correspondence set out the eleven allegations against him (Ex 6, TAB H). The applicant responded in writing (Ex 6, TAB 16). The applicant denied this allegation (see second last page).
84Ms Hartigan's witness statement does not advise which policy was breached by this allegation and does not advise why this allegation, if true, constitutes misconduct. Accordingly, the respondent has not made out its case that this conduct constituted misconduct. However, it may have been an inappropriate response to give by the applicant. As such, this matter could have been dealt with, other than by dismissal, by say the head teacher conferring with the applicant.
85The fifth allegation, which Ms Hartigan found to be misconduct, is set out at paragraph 2 and is that the applicant called a student (Thomas Madgwick) in his carpentry class, "a smart arse" when the applicant made a mistake in the classroom and the student corrected him. This complaint was lodged by Madgwick in his Complaint Form which also recorded that the foregoing term was said in an "aggressive tone". (Ex 6, TAB 2)
86In his interview of 4 December 2009, Madgwick stated that he took the foregoing term "as a joke straight up but I don't know, I just thought after the day I was pretty annoyed. Maybe I took it a bit far but I don't know". Under further questioning as to whether it was said as a joke, he responded, "Well, I thought not aggressive but sort of assertive, sort of try to show me who's boss as well". Further he advised it was said "like loud but not aggressive" and the applicant was not smiling. (Ex 6, TAB 7 pp6-7)
87The Commission notes that in his Complaint Form, Madgwick described the foregoing term as spoken in an "aggressive tone" but in his interview, said not aggressive but assertive.
88The applicant denied this allegation.
89The respondent's final submissions do not state that the complaint of Madgwick was witnessed by any of the other students. It seems then that it is a case of Madgwick asserting this complaint (the "smart arse" conversation) and the applicant denying the conversation took place.
90Ms Hartigan's letter of 24 May 2010, does not explain why she held this alleged conduct to be misconduct. Her witness statement is also silent on that issue and silent as to what policy was breached.
91This allegation, as already stated, is one where no witnesses are involved. However, the Commission is inclined to accept that the incident occurred on the basis that the Commission has accepted the accounts of various students as to their complaints against the applicant. Having made that decision that the conduct occurred, as claimed by Madgwick, the issue then is whether it constitutes misconduct. No evidence has been provided by Ms Hartigan as to how she determined that it was to be labelled as misconduct.
92The Commission makes the same deliberation for this matter as it did for the other words, "fuckwit" and "dickhead". The Commission finds that the use of this term is inappropriate but does not constitute misconduct, as it is not used in an obscene way. Again, it is a matter not warranting dismissal, but dealt with by say, the head teacher conferring with the applicant, given his lengthy service as a teacher and the one-off nature of the day, out of a twenty-six year career.
93The Commission refers to the Respondent's Submissions at paragraph 4.10 wherein it is asserted that "Mr Pace accepts that if the allegations (being the five allegations pertaining to 30 October, - the Commission) are established to be true, such conduct would amount to a breach of the Code of Conduct". A transcript reference is given: "T.41 (6/6/11)"
94The Commission's reading of the transcript shows that Mr Pace (the applicant) was not being asked about all five allegations falling within the events of 30 October. He was being asked about the words, "fuckwit", "dickhead" and "smart arse" and these words of alleged misconduct fell within two of the five allegations of misconduct. The other three allegations went to (a) one of you put your hand up to kick him out or I will, (b) aggressively grabbed Mr Page; and (c) if you are not going to teach us....
On the Commission's view of the respondent's claim that Mr Pace had conceded he had breached the Code of Conduct, if the allegations are true, the Commission finds that he was only making a concession for two of the five allegations of misconduct. Further, his concession scenario went only to breaches of the Code of Conduct. He was not asked that if he had breached the Code of Conduct, then he had also engaged in misconduct, per some policy provision.