"Mr Weber, it was your view in 1998, certainly in October 1998 that the goods that had been delivered to Strathfield were in fact not of merchantable quality, wasn't it?---It was, in October 1998. And it was your view in June 1998?---It was. And it was your view in May 1998?---It was. ... In May 1998 you held the view that the stock from which the goods were to be selected to be sold to Strathfield were not of merchantable quality?---Correct. The respects in which they were not of merchantable quality, what were the respects in which you considered they were not of merchantable quality?---Probably the least offensive would be the fact that they weren't new. ... MR ROBERTSON: In what respects did you consider they were not of merchantable quality?---They weren't new. Were there other respects in which you considered they were not of merchantable quality?---Many. And were those applicable to the bulk of the stock or to a smaller proportion?---Of the 27,000 pieces of inventory that were in the warehouse, probably less than 6,000 pieces were new... ... HIS HONOUR: What do you mean by not new?---Just what I'm saying, not new. What does that mean to you?---They're not new, they've been in the field once and been returned, they started off as being new and that they'd been returned from wherever, predominantly K-Mart. MR ROBERTSON: Mr Weber, the question I was asking was what proportion of the stock that was not new suffered from other defects?---I think a lot of the defects that you were probably trying to get to were actually caused in the process of refurbishment from January 1998 through to when the goods were actually forwarded to Strathfield. And you considered that refurbishment was not properly supervised?---Far from it. And it was carried out by unqualified casual staff?---Definitely. You consider that they were very sloppy in the way they carried out that job?---Yes. ... You say they didn't comply with the technical standards?---The goods actually did comply with the technical standards. I think actually what's done to the goods rendered a lot of them inoperable, I think is the words that they would use. ... MR MACAULAY: I will ask that one more time, Mr Weber. If the percentage of stock which you now say was defective had been removed from stock available for sale in 1998, you would not have achieved $900,000 - worth of sales would you?---As I said, the question is irrelevant. In hindsight, we can all do lots of different things. We need to actually - - - Do you agree with the proposition?---No, I don't. You say there was - - - ?---Because as I said, it's irrelevant. Does it follow then, Mr Weber, that it was your view that despite the - notwithstanding the amount of defective stock, which you now say was there in 1998, there was sufficient good stock which was not defective in order to achieve $900,000 - worth of sales?---Actually, I'll tell you something, the goods became defective through the cleaning process. If I filled your phone up with Nifty and water I promise you after a short period of time it won't function very well. By June 1998 then, do you say that the percentage of stock which you now say was defective for whatever reason had been removed from stock available for sale, you could not have achieved $900,000-worth of sales?---The question you are asking, I will make it a lot clearer, is irrelevant because the problem of defective stock was actually created by the process that the receiver and manager employed. Do you understand, Mr Weber - - - ?---The goods returned in the warehouse were primarily returns from K-Mart which was shipped back to AFA in new condition... ... By whatever process the goods became defective, do you say that by June 1998 the percentage of stock which had become defective was such that if it had been removed from stock available for sale, you would not have been able to achieve $900,000-worth of sales. Do you understand that question?---I understand the question. What is the answer?---The question is irrelevant. Yes, thank you, Mr Weber?---The problem was created by the receiver in the process that they went on refurbishing the stock. ... MR MACAULAY: ... Prior to 8 December 1997, that is back in September and October and November of 1997, there was a process going on of refurbishing stock?---Correct. On a very limited basis. As you have told His Honour this morning, having looked at the daily refurbishment work sheets, you accept that at least some scratched machines, units, were being put into location 1, which I think you will correct me if I am wrong, was back into stock?---Correct. Available for sale?---Correct."